Tartaria, Mud Flood, Flath Earth
Why wasn’t this the first flat earth rendition I saw? Oh right, because Flat Earth stays intentionally retarded to avoid having to discuss a domed Earth.
An Exhibited Expose
Seriously, what awesome images. Okay so back to the one up top, notice the border? It looks like…kind of like land. Like the world is really just one big crater. You know, a sunken Earth model would explain a lot.
Like, whatever the larger world is, we’re obviously at or below the water table, right? That accounts for the shit ton of water we have, the movements in astronomy, and for why you can’t take a direct flight to Australia.
Except that I did exactly that at age 12. Even if the flight path is a lie, it was a direct flight from LAX to Sydney’s International Airport, which is also likely its name.
”But Rocky!” you interrupt, looking confused, “What are you trying to talk about? The things you say aren’t tying together well!”.
That’s kind of my point. You ever watch Flat Earth videos? Or Tartaria/Mud Flood/Antiquitech videos? The Flat Earth genre is like, a million times more of a dumpster fire, but some of that same taint pervades the Tartaria community. But anyway you know what a nightmare it can be listening to these people.
Picture TIme
I noticed something when I went to grab a random Flat Earth image. These maps all show basically the same Flat Earth concept, but surrounded by different things. The first appears to be just more water (some maps show lands beyond in the greater outer oceans), the second is surrounded by an ice wall.
You might interpret whether the background is space or just filler, or whatever. I assume the artist made the ice wall and didn’t give a shit about what might be the unknown unknown…
I like the third, as again we see solid rock or some such. Some maps show other worlds as others craters… These are harder to find, since…you know… it’s pretty well understood that no civilian is ever finding out what happens if you just keep clipping through the ice wall.
Maybe John Titor knows.
Do people talking about Flat Earth ever go into objective analysis and comparison of alleged evidence? NO. They don’t. They go on and on about weather balloons, “water finds its level”, gravity not being real, and not being able to see the curve of the Earth.
What’s sad is that these aren’t entirely wrong considerations, and could be expanded on/refined. It’d also be really nice if they had anything more to say, at all. And who doesn’t leave hearing the reason “Because God did it”.
Okay so, God did do it in a sense. That doesn’t help our understanding, at all, whatsoever. Bringing it up just tells the rest of us that you’re ignorant of the very material you’re trying to present.
No curvature? Okay, so what? Maybe if you’re in the stratosphere or something…but at sea level or on Mt. St. Helens, you just can’t see far enough. Period. Binoculars can’t, and apparently the only telescope on Earth owned by a person that gives a shit enough to actually test this theory out, is not strong enough to see that far through Earth’s air.
The thing about gravity is that it’s a real thing that you can test anytime you want. Our understanding of it might be, and most likely is, wildly inaccurate. It may just be differences in density, or something else entirely. It doesn’t really fucking matter when the net effect you experience is the exact same, regardless of your understanding.
Cute Puppy to Calm You Down
Sorry, needed the puppy. I was getting a little worked up. I’m not here to bash on Flat Earthers, and honestly I am really open to the concept. I just wish its proponents had more to offer. I mean, I have ideas and stuff but I’m super lazy and bad at articulating my thinks.
It’s like, I’ve never been to a lot of places on Earth, but I suppose it exists because the TV says so. And some archaic media known as books and maps. Either way, it’s not like I’m fact checking this stuff myself. Likewise, it’s not like I can just go hop on my private rocket ship and double-check that space is indeed a real thing.
”But Rocky, you don’t need a rocket!”, you offer helpfully. And while I understand where you’re going with this, I can’t exactly afford to take a plane…not with fuel prices this high! Zing! …But yeah, I literally have no way of going any higher than….a building? I’ve been up 100 floors before, it was pretty dope. So I know Baltimore harbor is real.
Last thing to note before we move on to Star Forts, is that like a lot of conspiracies, both fact and theory, the Flat Earth thing gets hijacked and trolled. In fact, it was specifically used to create negative connotation with the phrase “conspiracy theory”, to great effect.
Some of the pictures don’t even look real. Especially the popular one in the Netherlands, holy shit some of the pics look too good to be real. But nope, they’re real. I enjoy many Star Fort videos, because by and large they just have pleasant, soft music in the background and images of Star Forts.
Sometimes narrators will give their input, which is usually pretty benign. I particularly like listening to John Levi talk. Just in general, honestly. I can throw on his Mud Flood videos for going to sleep background sound.
I’m not entirely certain what to say, but I feel like this is something worthy of note. There’s hundreds of these forts across the known world, ranging in design from very similar to identical. Uhm, what?
Now these days I’m sure public schools punish students who want to study history, but when I was going to primary we had social studies. It wasn’t totally inaccurate, it just cut content down to like 3 paragraphs to condense an ever-evolving narrative into less time. It seems to me that we learned about France somehow giving us a giant statue, but I don’t recall anything about the star shaped building.
To be fair, I bet lots of people don’t know or don’t give a shit about the Statue of Liberty. Even though it’s a massive copper conductor 46 meters high. If the flame or crown were gold, or even gold-tipped, that’d be super. 4600 volts making contact on gold sounds like $$$.
The thing is, I didn’t give a shit either, until I saw star-shaped fort in the Netherlands. And in the jungle. And at another historic site in America. And in Japan. And Australia. And Utah. They are literally everywhere. Infinite Star-Forts. Your house is probably a Star-Fort. Your parents are Star-Forts. If this were the 80’s, Star-Forts would be lattice.
Fort Belgica, Indonesia
This is dope as hell. Apparently the Dutch built it in the 1600’s. I wonder if they built Fort McHenry, too.
Fort McHenry, America
Apparently this was first built in 1798, and then used continuously by US Armed Forces until uh…End of World War 1, then became a national park in 1925…then in 1939 became a National Monument. The Coast Guard used the Fort in World War 2.
Does…do those dates seem like…potentially in conflict with each other? Idfk man, Wikipedia sucks enough without trying to talk about some star forts. So i guess the Dutch probably didn’t build this one, but it doesn’t say that they didn’t build it, either.
Fort Kalamata, Indonesia
There’s at least 3 fort locations of this design in Indonesia. They only look the same as Fort Henry in America, but you know, NBD.
This one was built by the Portuguese in 1540. Christ almighty.
Another 4-point Star Fort, just to show there’s more than one like that.
Fort Ticonderoga, on Lake Champlan. Is that US or Canada? I don’t know or care.
What I do know is that there’s a Nessie that lives in Lake Champlan. I saw it on Unsolved Mysteries. Not the YouTube channel, I’m talking the basic cable channel.
Was basic cable just local channels and a handful of national networks? I thought it was the first 50 channels or something, but no movie channels.
Indonesia.
No idea if this is on top of a Star Fort, but it’s a medieval looking construction. Mostly we just love the design choice. I mean, it had to be by intention. Even just drawing it on a map you’d immediately see it.
”Hey boss-man! Got a question about the layout plan!”
”It’s all good, Marv! We’re doing the dick and balls, King’s orders!”
”Haha! Nice!”
Do you remember the second image we showed you, the land map of the North Pole? Want to know about the real Northwest Passage, the entrance to the inner Earth, and Agartha? Too bad, we’re not doing that. Although…it could tie in somehow.
I mean, even if the video is fake, it’s the most realistic rendition I’ve seen so far. We accept CGI movies in lieu of footage from space. And what’s up with that? iPhones have better cameras than anything you can get at Best Buy, but NASA can’t figure out how to take regular pictures in space? Do astronauts not have cell phones? Why so much secrecy?
That’s really one of the main reasons people question this stuff. Like, you would think when someone first asked, “Hey can you share a few pics of space, but like…not the fake ones. No, no, no, I still want the fake ones…yeah, for posters and shit. But I mean, I just want to see space au naturale”. And that, my friends, becomes NASA’s cue for…
I swear to shit this is their mentality.
“That is absolutely impossible. You are retarded to question us. We obviously delete all data we receive, we have to. It’s the only way we can successfully create new images that makes us right and you wrong.”
Let’s move on to Tartarians. The common thread here was sort of how the people presenting these topics sometimes say things that make you cringe or shake your head at their ignorance.
Honestly, though, it’s only a few that suck. Like one guy so desperate to find a “Mud Flood building” that…idk even know, it was just sad. Like, the basement windows were just regular windows, they didn’t follow the pattern he wanted so badly to see. Then questioning what’s behind the lattice skirting the deck. Dude, probably a garden hose, a space heater, and a leftover pair of work gloves. And tons of spiders.
Mostly though it’s more stuff like…”I meant that they created the narrative. God created the world, obviously.” Yeah, it is obvious to some of us, but the majority of us think it’s obvious but have the wrong idea of God, or none at all. So, it’s better just not to say things like this.
But really in that above example, the content is good and for the most part it’s just people appreciating the structures at face value and sharing thoughts. Bless their hearts.
Is it really a stretch to think we could use the tip tops to harness atmospheric electricity?
You can literally use a drone to run a wire into the sky to harness power. One guy charged a cell phone or some shit. Mostly they just do light bulbs and small motors.
So I’m saying, if a tiny wire can turn the lights on, the tops of the buildings are much thicker and probably grounded. Electricity can be transferred wirelessly, so I mean… I’m a fan of the idea this shit was used to generate power.
So…basically Russia.
So Tartaria has been purposefully wiped from history. No joke. Also, there’s still tribes of Tartars alive today living the traditional life.
Not these Tartarians. These are the ones erased from history.
Not this map, I don’t think, but it reminds me of another Tartaria map where the land is underwater in present-day maps.
Okay so there were some declassified CIA papers regarding the Russian genocide of the tartars, and more specifically the rewriting of history and total dissolution of the old narrative to hide their brutality.
There are supposed survivors, as stated previously. So yeah, idk how that works. I only saw them in videos of people travelling poor countries. Let’s be honest, those videos might be great fun to watch, but their England pounds Norwegian krona wouldn’t let them buy houses and livestock for essentially pennies in any normal country.
Now, some say the modern Tartar story is a hoax to draw attention from, and even discredit, the Old World Tartarians. The really tall people that built the global civilization that we find today as ancient ruins.
Or we just destroy what we find. It’s probably both. Same with the Tartars. I bet both stories are true. We humans do love a good genocide, after all.
Why do we care about Tartarians? Hmm, only in so much that it’s fun to think about and probably makes more sense. Personally, I kind of think the number of civilizations come and gone on our planet is …idk, probably at least a few dozen.
In the first Animorphs : Megamorphs, a Sario Rip took them back in time to dinosaur days. They end up finding themselves in danger then rescued by a highly advanced race. A race destined to die very soon…because of a meteor.
Honestly it doesn’t really matter, I just find a lot of Old World stuff getting tied together.
Picture Time
‘Mud Flood Buildings’ is kind o fa vague term. Typically we’re thinking of buildings that have been partially buried in mud. The term also is applied to the Roman-style architecture buildings found worldwide, including the Americas, used mostly as government buildings.
They also refer to the Antiquitech buildings, like the one built in Utah in 1893. In the lake. Built in the Salt Lake. In Utah. In 1893. I call bullshit.
That’s a big part of why this stuff is so interesting! The truth is probably mundane and boring, but it’s like….idk about you, but I’m dying to know why. Why not say “Yeah fuck me I got no idea, this stuff was all here when we arrived”. …. that actually doesn’t sound much better.
”I’m not saying it’s aliens, but I am saying it’s cave trolls. Obviously.”
What’s up with the basement windows? Why the shit did they building full length windows for basement level? Probably because it wasn’t always the basement.
It’s getting late, I’m losing interest, and my fat ass needs sugary snacks before I can cry myself to sleep. Therefore, we’re just kinda gonna skip over the whole facade (I don’t remember the alt-code for the French curly-cue c) part.
This is often one of the parts of videos that starts to irk me. Otherwise rational, inquisitive and otherwise curious individuals are suddenly like, “But wait, there’s more!”.
Then it is suggested that it wasn’t built by the previous civilization, just found and touched up. And so before them the same. And you know, it’s whatever, but they make it sound like there’s some giant grand conspiracy to hide the truth from you.
There is, actually. But not about building cities on top of cities. That’s…that’s how cities work. Build a new city on top of previous city’s remains. Okay? So what? Build over the same parts of your current city enough times and you’ll find some elevations raising.
OH BTW, CITIES SINK OVER TIME. DID YOU KNOW THAT? Maybe, but you didn’t think about it. Everything sinks. It’s just a matter of how much over how long. The answer NOT VERY MUCH over a VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
Usually. Sometimes sinkholes happen. That sucks.
Soil Liquefaction
This can happen to areas of earth larger than some cities. For real. It’s a thing. Some areas see it all the time. It can cause landslides and mudflows. A mudflow is basically a flood of mud.
We all know the story of Noah’s Flood. IDGAF ABOUT GILGAMESH. You still know about Noah and His flood. His. Flood. A global deluge.
Pause. Back to local. How does a city get covered in 6 feet of mud? Well, cities can get flooded. Floods move large amounts of mud. If enough mud is moved, it is called a mudflow.
Did you know that I was directed to an insurance page about mudflow coverage? They do Not cover mudslides or other movements of mud caused by a combination of slope and precipitation. That’s kind of fair, though. You live next to a cliff in a high precipitation area…you’re kind of asking for it.
What inevitably you’ll find out, is that a lot of folks have connected the dots to form a sort of theory-by-consensus that the world was reset. By flooding it. With mud.
And to be honest, when you think about it…there’s all these similar buildings worldwide. Flood stories worldwide. Also, buildings partially buried in mud worldwide. And of course cities building on top of older cities. Obviously.
Really the main thing is that we see basically the same thing over the entire world. Yet, if we start asking questions…there simply aren’t answers in places there should be. Such as building records of massive, expensive, government constructions.
The most you find are matter-of-fact one-liners, stating the most labor intensive buildings were erected in impossible timeframes with a lack of resources and manpower.
….So what’s the problem? Honestly, I didn’t think there would be one. I mean, I did, but in trying to be objective and whatever, there really shouldn’t be an issue. Apparently the problem is people asking questions.
I can’t think too much about conspiracy things. Not that I don’t believe, it’s just irrelevant. I suppose knowing the truth of our history is also irrelevant, but is it? It might not be. It’s definitely a hell of a lot more interesting to think about, though, than what insidious plans our shadowy overlords have for us.
Hmm…dwell on negative stuff that I can’t do a damn thing about…
Ponder the reality of our existence and look at amazing constructions and “lost” technology?
Easy choice.
Nice. I wanted a good airship hangar shot, but this is dope AF, too. Oh right, airships!
Airships were a thing. I feel like the excuse that we pussied out on hydrogen gas is a poor one. A better explanation would be one of economics, since it took many, many cow stomachs to make the giant airbags to hold the hydrogen.
Actually, nowadays that would be a great way for the cattle industry to add value to each head.
Zeppelins were a thing, too. Because in war, all things are things if they can get a kill. Also, the Empire State Building was going to be a docking station for airships, but it didn’t pan out so well (supposedly).
Kinda makes sense, there’s all sorts of random newspaper ads and stuff that makes airships look fairly common - common enough anyway. Not for you and I, we’re riff-raff.
If airships are so cool, then why did we stop using them?
Humans overall never stopped using airships. They’re just super expensive, and struggle to be economically viable.
Airships also have a hard time competing with modern jets. Even prop planes can move more quickly, I would think. But hey, we all get to see the Goodyear Blimp once a year on TV, right?
There’s a new luxury airship taking people to the North Pole. No joke. A 2-person cabin costs $233,000. …. Seems like you could get a trip to space for that price. Tbh though I’d like to go to the North Pole, mostly because you’re not allowed to. I suspect this expensive ride just kind of skirts around a certain area.
Still pretty cool, though.
I saw a site for a company making vertical airships. Would love to check it out, but it’s bedtime.
